| Остороожно!!! Мошенники!!! | | | Bella | Дата: Понедельник, 21.10.2013, 18:25 | Сообщение # 31 | | Рядовой  Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | Всем доброго времени суток! Я с Украины. Я несколько недель назад зарегистрировалась на сайте aupair4you. И я хочу здесь поделится моим опытом , который меня очень шокировал, так как произошло это в первый раз . xix октября 2013 мне пришло письмо :
Hello Au pair, How are you doing, promise you are having a wonderful time and i hope this mail will find yous in good wellness. I am a British Lady and a single parent past name Kate Lockett, I am living and working in London UK.
My best friend recommended me to await for an Au pair who will take good care of Blood-red my simply girl. My friend brash me to search for an Au pair through www.aupair4you.eu because she was very lucky to employ an Au pair whom she selected from the site and she suggested the Au pair site to me and advise me every bit well to try this experience because she is comfortably living with her Au pair, so i have decided to select you from the Au pair sitewww.aupair4you.eu believing that information technology is going to be a wonderful experience and to the best of Cherry's comfort and exchange of culture and knowledge every bit she grows. I have my ain house here in London so your adaptation will not be a trouble, i am living comfortably with Cherry therefore all i want from my new Au pair is to take Cherry similar a sis and accept good intendance of her every bit well. I accept a nice task because i'm working with a reputable visitor, and then your benefits will never exist a problem to me. I hope i have made the right choice by selecting you, believing that you lot will non disappoint me. If you are interested and willing to join us as Cherry's Au pair and then kindly go back to me, i will exist so glad to receive your positive response. Looking forward to hear from you soon. Kind regards. Kate.
Конечно , когда я получила такое письмо , я очень обрадовалась и подумала какие хорошие люди написали мне  . И я ответила на это письмо . Добавлено (21.ten.2013, 16:42)
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И я недолго ждала ответ на мое письмо. Вот что они мне ответили :
Hello , Hope this mail finds you in good wellness? I am pleased and over whelmed to receive your response. As i told yous before i am a unmarried parent living with Cherry my merely daughter and i adore Cherish so much even my parents doesn't joke with Cherry, they communicate with me every twenty-four hours to know how Red is doing. My parents lives in Manchester while i live with Cherry in a house my male parent bought for me, located in Rex STREET LONDON because i'yard his merely girl and he loves me and then much, he always wants me to visit them in Manchester always but due to my chore engagement i do visit them ones in a while. My name is Kate Lockett with my girl Red Lockett who is 2 years old, Cherry is a fun and a loving daughter, i cherish her and plays with her, i always do things that will brand her happy and i accept a small garden where i plays with Crimson. All this while my skilful friend has been telling me to look for an Au pair to take intendance of Reddish and so i decided to adhere to her propose and i believe it is going to be a wonderful feel, the period of your stay is non a trouble to me, all i want is to testify this feel and know how it goes. I take informed my parents nigh this and they are very very happy, my mother said to me that it is a skillful idea and i'1000 and so excited that they supported me in this experience. I am doing all this but to brand Cherry happy because she is my Angel and she is all i accept for now therefore all i want from my new Au pair is to dearest and take skilful care of Cherry, my girl is a lovely girl, she doesn't disturb, she is non suffering from any kind of sickness, she is in adept health and i'm also in proficient health too. In my house i take a dissever 1 bed room apartment which is also located in my house therefore your accommodation would be a live in apartment and since i'thou in contact with you i will starting time arranging the room to be in social club before your arrival. Every week i will exist given you £160 equally your weekly pocket coin for your upkeep also i will accept care of your meals and please if you have any demand don't hesitate to tell me when i'g back from work if information technology is a need i can solve so i will solve it. I have my own private car and i as well i have a bicycle information technology will not be necessary for you lot to drive because i have just one motorcar and i normally drive it to work simply my cycle is ever available, you can use it if you like only if you don't like ridding bicycle at that place is no trouble with that OK! i'm just telling you for you lot to know. I believe with this few description of my family, you have had a little picture show of my family, y'all volition see things by yourself when y'all arrived because seeing is believing, i promise you that i will take yous as function of u.s.a. not only equally an Au pair but as my sibling also and in the same time i would appreciate if you can love, take good care of Cherry and take her equally your piffling sister. Please if you have whatever question just experience free to ask me, is just that i'm always busy merely i will endeavor my best to nourish to you as soon equally i can. Kindly go back to me as soon equally you lot read this mail so that i volition know your final decision and opinion.
Cherry says Hi Hi Hello to you.
Looking forward to hear from y'all.
Kind regards.
Kate. Добавлено (21.10.2013, 16:54)
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Меня очень удивило тот факт , что я очень понравилась этой "Кейт"... , потому что она не общалась со мной много и она видела только 1 маленькую фото на сайте ... Но все таки я выслала мои фотографии и попросила , чтобы она мне прислала фото их семьи . И в iii письме я получила six фотографий маленького размера и плохого качества. На фото были милые люди  : так называемая Кейт , Ангел Черри , и бабушка с дедушкой.
How-do-you-do , Hope yous are having a wonderful fourth dimension? I'thou and then delighted to hear from you one time once more and to receive your kind answers to my question. i'm so excited that our communication is becoming a fruitful ane and i'm seriously interested to host you as Cherry's Au pair, yous sound and then polite and honest i love that. I called my parents today and informed them well-nigh you and the level of our communication and they were very happy, my father said to me that he will come up personally to my house and welcome you upon your inflow and this is to tell yous how important Cherry is to them. I'm happy that you lot enjoyed yourself doing your grandmother's birthday and i hope you enjoyed weekend as well. This is my start feel to host an Au pair so i take made some necessary inquiries and i was informed that all the Au pair applicants who intends to work in the UK legally are expected to contact the Lawyer that works with the Uk Dwelling Office every bit a representative for Au pairs who intends to work in the UK, her proper name is Barr. Catherine Southgate her email address is Barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com kindly contact her and tell her your interest and willingness to work with Kate Lockett as an Au pair to Cherry, tell her your total name, Nationality, Age, current location and some other necessary information that tin can assist your application. As before long as you are in contact with her she will get dorsum to you lot with all the details and requirements for Au pair job in the Great britain and so that your proper name and awarding will be included in the list of Au pairs who volition be coming to work every bit an Au pair in the UK, also this will assist the Uk Home Office to secure a common understanding between you and me every bit the host including your Work Permit Visa, National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card and other supporting documents for Au pair chore program in the Britain. I will advise you to contact the Lawyer immediately past sending her a post through her electronic mail address which i have given you to enable her attend to your application without whatever filibuster. Delight while contacting her kindly brand certain that you lot will introduce yourself very well because she is the UK Home Office representative for Au pairs. Please you have to copy and paste the e-mail address so that you will non exercise any mistake in her email accost. Please yous have to copy and paste the email accost so that you volition not do whatsoever error in her email address. The Lawyer volition procedure all your necessary travel documents that will enable you lot to travel down here without having any immigration trouble. Your main duty is to have adept care of Cherry, keeping her room tidy, making her bed, dusting and irresolute her sheets weekly, you need to do her ironing and keep her clothes make clean and tidy, you lot will also exist required to make her lite meals, accept her to the parks because Blood-red likes visiting the park and about especially have FUN with her. My little angel volition be so excited to have you lot effectually and she will definitely fall in honey with you. Ruddy goes to school from 10am to 4pm which means that she stays half dozen hours in school so all you need to do is to take her to school when it is 10am then come up dorsum and take intendance of your own needs and when it is 4pm you will be required to go and pick her upward. If you are interested in the English class i have made some inquiries because at that place is a nearby English class that is very close to my house so if you are interested i will take you there and registered you upon your arrival so the toll will be paid by me, the English class last for just ii hours from Monday to Friday. Your free days volition exist Saturdays and Sundays and you lot will be required to work for 25 hours per week.
Considering the fact that i take taken you as Cherry'southward Au pair, i have some questions for you hoping to receive an urgent reply from yous before long.
 Always remember that i and Red really loves you so much.
Kisses from your footling sister Cherry. Kind regards.
Kate.
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Не долго я ждала и на следующий день я получила письмо от адвоката с и-мейла barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com
My name is Barr. Catherine Southgate working with the UK Habitation Office as a representative for Au pair applicants here in the UK, we handle all he issues related to Au pair applications such every bit piece of work allow visa, residential allow, work scheme card, supporting documents, National insurance Number etc. I wish to acknowledge the content of your mail which has been noted in the Britain Domicile Office. Kate Lockett has already informed me about you and i have waited to receive your bulletin to enable me attend to your application considering Kate Lockett pleaded with me to take your application serious and i hope her to do then, just to enable me speedy up the processing of your travel documents depends on your total cooperation. We have contacted your host Kate Lockett regarding the requirements needed from her as the host and she hope to provide the corporeality because in the UK government your employer is responsible for your visa fees, flight ticket and other documentation fees which will toll her the full amount of £3,200GBP and she agreed to provide it get-go thing tomorrow morning because she informed Britain Habitation Role that she actually want you to join her as her daughter'southward Au pair. Your own responsibleness as the applicant/immigrant is to evidence your financial stability of £650GBP through WESTERN Matrimony OR Money GRAM as your travel bones allowance which after you will get back to me with the scanned re-create of the deposit receipt for verification and confirmation procedure in the Great britain Home Function. All the instructions is existence stated in the fastened documents therefore you lot are hereby advised to read carefully and follow instructions. Yous are required to meet up with the requirements equally shortly equally possible to enable u.s. complete your application and your travel documents to the U.k.. Get dorsum to me with all the needful requirements Asap. Your urgent cooperation matters. Working to serve you amend. Border Bureau, ii Marsham Street London, SW1P 4DFUnited Kingdom.Application: Barr-southgatecatherine@consultant.com(UK Home Office Aupair/Nanny Representative) и прислали мне 4 анкеты , которые я должна была заполнить  Добавлено (21.x.2013, 17:29)
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К сожалению я не знала , что по этой программе культурного обмена нельзя поехать в Великобританию .Поэтому я поверила этим людям , которые мне писали . Но мне показалось странным , что началась такая быстрая спешка по оформлению всех документов и так далее... + фото были в плохом качестве , у меня сложилось впечатление , что их просто скопировали с какого-то сайта. Все выглядело очень заманчиво и все предлагаемые условия были очень даже отличными .  И в каждых письмах меня торопили с тем , что я должна выслать документ о переводе . Мне даже инструкцию выслали , где по 100 раз написано о том , что я должна переслать деньги через вестерн юнион. А именно :
Autonomously from sponsorship from Uk Based Employers, workers in Social Service Category (i.due east Au pair, Babysitter, Nanny) coming to live and work in the U.k. for at least 10 to 12 months are mandated to have a minimum of £650GBP, which is the stipulated financial requirement/basic bidder insurance allowance that must exist in possession of the applicant/employee into the United kingdom. You must be able to demonstrate that y'all take funds to support yourself. This is to certify that you tin be responsible for your maintenance as mandated by UK Insurance policies to protect and secure Au pairs financially. The mandatory insurance allowance is £650GBP. National Insurance process is for the security and wellbeing of Au pair applicants and information technology is mandatory. Note: This is not a payment but a deposit to ensure that you can cater for your needs and support yourself in one case you arrive hither before y'all receive your starting time bacon from your Employer.
The United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Home Office would ensure via this means that merely eligible Au pair applicants who are financially capable are allowed entry into the Great britain and must exist completed to fulfill availability of funds in cases of Emergency and for full financial security of the applicant/worker earlier receipt of first month salary and benefits from Employers. This process is solely for proof that you have the stipulated fiscal requirement as per an applicant seeking to enter the United Kingdom despite sponsorship from your Employer for your financial security and would take 24hrs for confirmation hence follow the detailed instructions for confirmation of Au pair applicants travel assart beneath.
PROCEDURE: VERIFICATION/CONFIRMATION OF MANDATORY Basic INSURANCE FUNDS
The following process has been adopted following the new-points based arrangement to earn the needed points for issuance of National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card and supporting documents. Bank statements were hitherto accepted, still due to falsification of banking concern statements which does non compulsorily certify/surety that the applicant would enter the Country with the mandatory insurance assart/financial requirement, we no longer accept bank statements as final travel guarantee Добавлено (21.10.2013, 17:38)
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Of import (As per Clearing policies, this procedure must exist completed by your closed friend.
To meet the to a higher place requirement yous and any of your airtight friend is to brand a deposit of the stipulated financial requirement of £650GBP to your name and accost in the UK via Western Wedlock or Money Gram agent as proof that yous have secured funds to support yourself when you arrive here till you receive your beginning bacon from your Employer:
METHOD TO BE USED WHILE MAKING THE DEPOSIT VIA WESTERN UNION OR Money GRAM:
SENDER: Any of your airtight friend or family friend.
RECEIVER: Must be you the main immigrant
PAYOUT COUNTRY: United Kingdom
PAYOUT AMOUNT: £650GBP
Notation: Y'all must ensure that the sender is your airtight friend and the receiver must be you lot for the security of your funds and to enable you withdraw the fund back as soon as you get in Uk. After you have make the deposit kindly send united states the browse copy of the eolith receipt for Verification and Confirmation process in the Great britain Dwelling Office.
Your closed friend should Visit the nearest Western Matrimony or Money Gram Office, close to him or her and brand a eolith of £650GBP to your name as the receiver here in United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland which is your insurance allowance following the transfer instructions above advisedly for our verification and confirmation Process.
You will exist the 1 to give the coin to your friend so that he or she will send the money through Western Wedlock or Money Gram for you lot every bit the Sender while your proper name volition be the Receiver hither in the Great britain.
Application Checklist: You are to send the following awarding requirements: •Confirm Courier Address for Shipment of Difficult Copies of your National Insurance Documents, Work Scheme Menu, Residence Permit and supporting documents via courier inside 28 hours you will received it.
•Scan the receipt of the eolith of your fiscal requirement including the Money Transfer Verification Number to enable our office performs Verification of the deposit. This is usually carried out within 24hrs.
•The filled work permit visa awarding form.
•The filled consent grade.
•The signed contract agreement alphabetic character between yous and Kate Lockett.
Note: Ensure that the sender will be whatever of your closed friend or family friend and the receiver of the £650GBP is you and then that just you tin can withdraw the eolith subsequently the verification of eolith has been carried out. This is not a payment only a deposit for verification which is why it is in your closed friend's proper name every bit the sender and your proper noun as the receiver and to likewise fulfill that you lot accept funds to back up yourself as it is the mandatory process for your financial security when you arrive here till you receive your beginning bacon from your Employer which means that the coin is still yours. Добавлено (21.ten.2013, 17:55)
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The instructions above would earn you the needed points under the new point-based system for the release of your Work Permit Visa, National Insurance Number, Work Scheme Card, Residence Let and supporting documents to legalize your work status here.
**Please notation that your application will be rejected equally invalid if yous do non deposit the specified fund £650 via Western Spousal relationship or Money Gram**
Cooperate with us to enable us serve you meliorate.
Your safety is our priority.
Вот такую инструкцию мне отправила так называемая BarrBarr-southgatecatherine@c onsultant.com
Она утверждала, что должен отправить деньги на мое имя другой человек с другой фамилией , чем моя фамилия. это должен быть друг семьи или мой друг. и деньги должны быть переведены в Великобританию.
Я поняла, что что-то здесь не так.... 
и я написала вопрос "этому адвокату" : Good day!I'k ready to ship the coin tomorrow. And I'm interested in one question that needs to exist explained. What'south the difference betwixt that I myself put money on eolith for myself and that someone close friends ship me the coin via Western Spousal relationship to deposit.
И мне скоро пришло письмо. В котором Я не увидела ответа на мой вопрос !
I wish to acknowledge the content of your post. You are not required to send the money past yourself, the U.k. Home Office has in that location own policy and you have to cooperate with usa.
The United kingdom Home Function wants to make sure that anyone else that has a unlike surname with you is enlightened of your travel and intention to work hither in the UK that was why y'all were suggest that whatsoever of your friend or family unit friend volition be the sender or if your uncle or cousin has a different surname with you and then he can likewise be the sender while your name will be the receiver here in the UK. Of import Information: I don't think that Western Union offices exercise work on weekends so i don't know why you choose to do it tomorrow considering i don't call back it will possible. Cooperate with usa and we would work to serve yous better. Your safety is our priority. Добавлено (21.x.2013, xviii:25)
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Я написала Кейт, что хочу поговорить с ней по скайпу, и увидеть ее и маленькую Черри ( но на тот момент я прочитала уже в интернете об этих мошенниках http://world wide web.scamwarners.com , и даже нашла аналогичные письма, которые пришли мне  ) Она ответила мне:
Howdy , Glad hearing from you over again. I just want to inform y'all that i can't Skype with you at the moment, i'chiliad having a serious problem with my Skype business relationship and my Skype business relationship is customized with my laptop so i need to render it to the company where i bought it so that they will rectify the problem but due to my job engagement i have not had the time to visit the company, this days i'm very decorated in the office but because i accept taken you as role of us, i always try to reply your mails as shortly as i tin can.
Right now this issue of Skype is given me a very big problem. Give thanks y'all for your understand. Kind regards. Kate. И мне начали звонить на мобильный телефон. Говорила женщина. Английский был ужасный. я ничего не могла понять . Хотя я разговариваю на английском и понимаю иностранных людей. Но сначала я думала, что эта женщина с Англии , поэтому я не могу понимать . Но когда я заметила. что письма пишут с ошибками и отказались говорить по скайпу, типа какие-то существуют проблемы , то все стало ясно.  :facepalm: Даже больше того , мне писали сообщения +447944024316. а звонили несколько раз с +2348064327164!! И как я узнала что +234 это телефонный код НИГЕРИИ!!  :assist: | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Понедельник, 21.10.2013, 19:08 | Сообщение # 32 | | Подполковник  Группа: Администраторы Репутация: two Статус: Оффлайн | К сожалению могу также констатировать... очень многие обращаются именно по таким вопросам. И вероятно не у всех хватает проницательности для того чтобы догадаться что имеют дело с мошенниками. Процентов 99.99 семей из англии ( якобы семей) - мошенники, процентов 99 семей ( якобы) из США на онлайн сервисах для о-пэр также мошенники. Я общался с одним из руководителем таких онлайн сервисов, женщина понимает и знает что у них регистрируются мошенники выдавая себя за семьи, по возможности с ними идет борьба... но на это нужно время, а на новую регистрацию мошенников на сайтах уходит минуты. Пожелание... не стесняйтесь, спрашивайте... так многие делают, но не все. Мы коммерческая организация, устраивающая о-пэр 17 лет в разные страны, но мы еще никому не отказали в консультации или помощи в таких ситуациях ... а нашего опыта достаточно чтобы быстро определить мошенник ли с вами общается или реальная семья. | | | | | Aladoria | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 03:26 | Сообщение # 33 | | Рядовой Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | 1 Добавлено (07.01.2014, 03:24)
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всем привет. Почитала страницу и я в ужасе. Сейчас веду переписку с семье из США. Боюсь как бы не быть обманутой. Вот письмо которое мне написали,я сама нашла семью через сайт и первавя им написала. Howdy Thanks for your interest in our family, am deplorable for responding late, I believe you'll enjoy staying with us. Max and I both work out of the house each solar day for work. Am a Nurse at the land Hospital, and so I am with Patients and out of the firm more than frequently. Max is an construction Engineer and alwys Travel up and downwards. We are lucky that Kids school and activities are all within 15 minutes of our domicile. Vanessa is a wonderful kid, She mean the earth to us, she is vi years old respectively ,she is funny playful an intelligent kid,nosotros enrolled her at School, but will likely go iii mornings a calendar week come Feb. she also do gymnastics, swims and loves to do arts and crafts at home, likewise as visit the zoo, Children'southward museum, play centers, and the recreation middle (that has an indoor pool year round, when our outdoor pool is closed We live Los Angeles in California which has several historic districts, an fine art museum, a symphony orchestra, universities, city parks, and lakes. Music is everywhere here, from rise artists to famous musicians, singers, and songwriters and the Famous beach. The weather hither is cute – mostly warm and sunny springs, hot summers, warm autumn months, and a few cold winter months.
Our family unit fashion is generally coincidental, warm and breezy. We are excited to have someone from some other state and culture, who speaks another language too English, as part of our household,we enjoy being exterior and barbecuing, cook on our outside grill and socialize with friends and also We belong to a recreation center/gym. Your duty schedules generally around the kids, go Her dressed for school, walk her downwardly to the bus pick up bespeak, help her with after school activities till nosotros become dorsum abode, usually we are abode before 5pm except special over times which you'll be duly compensated for. Weekend will exist complimentary for you because nosotros get to spend time with the kids and possibly hang out or have friends over so y'all can go anywhere y'all want. We are somewhat flexible and can work out a schedule that suits our Au pair while covering our needs as well Yous will be entitled to a pay of $1450 every month while you will besides be given an entitlement of $100 every calendar week for petty expenses which you might need for personally and we might review this when you arrival.
Our Au Pair'due south room is individual with the best bath in the house and a sitting area, tv, telephone, a PC with net connexion, and closet.We have had an Au pair before and its was good. In that location are also several universities where many au pairs in the area take classes, every bit well as many opportunities to run across and socialize with other young people, we'll be willing to help you become into whatsoever of those. Permit me know if you are ready to accept up this position and probably get some more pictures from yous with kids? I will love to know how long you want to stay with united states and if the salary is good by y'all? And lastly practice y'all have a valid passport and other necessary documents needed for Visa Application ? I believe I have a fashion out with the Visa. All-time Regards,
Sharon. Добавлено (07.01.2014, 03:24)
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То есть обычная переписка вроде бы,далее еще письмо How-do-you-do , Thank you for your message am excited you like our family,I spoke with my husband and he agreed y'all tin can come over, and so we are looking to arrive bigger family past yous joining united states of america.Vanessa loved everything I told her about you and then I'll desire us to kickoff preparations every bit soon as possible and get everything ready because I believe the VISA processing takes some fourth dimension. Most the Visa, flight and other traveling documents, I believe its best nosotros go them through an agency because of our past experience from our neighbour: so I believe it'due south all-time to apply through them, they helped with our last Au pair and information technology was very fast, polish so we too feel very secure patronizing them again. We want to make sure that yous have a valid VISA and documents so that when you get to the United states of america at that place wont be any hitch whatsoever.
Our friends had their start Au pair In the yr 2010 from Republic of finland that processed an invalid VISA more like a tourist VISA instead of a J1 VISA and was later caught some few weeks after staying with them which cost them so many Court cases, please in that example I hope you are okay with this security measure out. Concerning your Visa processing and all traveling expenses, I believe you know that our family must also pay some amount of money as well, that ways you volition also be paying your own part of the total traveling expenses which is affordable I believe, but right now I cannot requite you the electric current price breakdown and processing details except y'all make contact.I want us to make progress without any delay so that you can join us soonest. In regards to this, you will have to contact Mr James Clarke (The International Relations Officer) of the EurAupairInc Agency on this email: euraupair@representative.com for all details of the processing of your Visa, Piece of work Let,Medical Insurance, Flight Tickets and other traveling documents including the Total Toll,delight tell him "Your proper name, Your Full contact address and your personal cell telephone number with international dialing code, your land and how long you intend staying with us and when you volition wanna first and that you have establish your American Host family (Frei Family with ID CA070286 living in Los Angeles, Usa) Then Please kindly get back to me with whatever they tell yous so that we tin discuss amend about the payment. I will be expecting your reply soonest. Make sure you contact them every bit soon every bit possible as nosotros tin't expect to accept you here with us.
Merry Christmas And Happy New year in Advance
Dear Sharon. Добавлено (07.01.2014, 03:25)
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Вот ивсе мои письма с семье,как понятно из второго письма они работают с
агенством якобы
я отписала этому мужчине,на что он мне прислал сообщение. Management wishes to thank you for contacting us regarding the arrangement of
your Traveling Documents to the United Country of America. Nosotros promise to offer
yous the best which you will be glad you did. The Agency is a U.S. State
Department-designated sponsor for an Au pair cultural commutation program. They
bring to their program more than twenty years of experience in cultural commutation
and hosting Au pairs with carefully screened American families. Our experience
in the travel industry has served our clients well over terminal several years. And
nosotros are fully ASTA and ATOL protected travel agent which ways your money is fully
guaranteed. ATOL – which is short for "Air Travel Organizers' licensing" – exists to
protect the public from losing money or being stranded abroad because of the
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+он мне прислал iv документа, мед справки,которые надозаполнить, договор с семьей,но то самое интересное программа получается намного
дороже чем берут российские агенства- 1434$,ну а с семьи там еще больше,на наши
рубли получается окло 45 тыщ рублей,не многовато ли? Пока переводить куда то
деньги не просят. НО семья испарилась с сайта,либо я просто не могу ее найти.
Подскажите не мошенничество ли это?Как определить? | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 12:49 | Сообщение # 34 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: 2 Статус: Оффлайн | Напишите с какого майла вам писала семья и с какого майла писало агентство | | | | | Aladoria | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, xiii:12 | Сообщение # 35 | | Рядовой Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | sherryberry@inbox.com -это Шерон Фрей
EurAuPair@representative.com- а это представитель агенства | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:fourteen | Сообщение # 36 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: 2 Статус: Оффлайн | 2 Aladoria напишите с каких майлов вам писали семья и якобы агентство. это поможет разобраться с вашим вопросом. Пока... предварительно... слишком много разных нестыковок и все очень походе на действия мошенников. Тем не менее жду майлы, разберусь и вам напишу, конечно с аргументами, чтобы вам было все понятно. | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:25 | Сообщение # 37 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: ii Статус: Оффлайн | Цитата Aladoria (  ) sherryberry@inbox.com -это Шерон ФрейEurAuPair@representative.com- а это представитель агенства
почти на100 процентов это мошенники, лучше с ними не связываться, как и не связываться с поиском семей в сша через интернет. В этом просто нет смысла. Правила определяют обязательное участие в устройстве лицензированного американского агентства. Именно оно ставит стоимость программы которую вы должны заплатить... Вы ничего не экономите ища семью самостоятельно, но очень рискуете. В чем смысл? А если бы вы не дай бог не наткнулись на наш форум??? чем бы это все закончилось? Итак... про нестыковки... а) ни одно уважающее себя агенство не будет делать ткой майл EurAuPair@representative.com Это полный идиотизм... их майл будет таким: вася@euraupair.com
это чаще всего встречающийся способ маскировки ... они маскируются под известное агентство, но не имея возможности доступа к их доменному имени ... пытаются всунуть название в майле где либо в другом месте. Как в вашем случае продолжение следует... | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 13:forty | Сообщение # 38 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: ii Статус: Оффлайн | телефон также странный, отсутствует в любых поисковиках, что в принципе не может быть при реально работающей фирме.
условия которые вам в начале предложили- значительно лучше стандартных для США, что в принципе странно и чаще всего показывает что это не реальная семья, а мошенники, которые пытаются таким образом заманить в свои сети. ( семьи и так много тратят для приглашения о-пэр и в процессе программы, смысл платить о-пэр больше на 500-600 долларов в месяц просто отсутствует, если участь что желающих для участия в программе много и на стандартных условиях) | | | | | Aladoria | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, fourteen:25 | Сообщение # 39 | | Рядовой Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | Я вчера просматривала в гугле телефоны такие телефоны существуют вроде,и вроде даже в Лос Анжелесе. Я бы могла скинуть документы но тут никак их не прицепишь,там вроде все официально все как положено.Есть возможность показать вам доки? Добавлено (07.01.2014, xiv:25)
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http://world wide web.euraupair.com/offices.html разве это не их сайт? | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:31 | Сообщение # 40 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: 2 Статус: Оффлайн | Цитата Aladoria ( ) http://world wide web.euraupair.com/offices.html разве это не их сайт? это сайт реального агентства,под которое маскируются мошенники. обратите внимание на их майлы... я писал про это выше. какие у них в контактах, а какой в вашем контакте якобы от их фирмы. Я очень часто общался по такому вопросу с разными людьми в вашей ситуации, вы сейчас поступаете также как подавляющее большинство.... продолжаете верить что именно у вас реальная семья и реальные люди... Это других пытаются обмануть,но только не вас. | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:32 | Сообщение # 41 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: ii Статус: Оффлайн | Цитата Aladoria ( ) Я вчера просматривала в гугле телефоны такие телефоны существуют вроде,и вроде даже в Лос Анжелесе. Я бы могла скинуть документы но тут никак их не прицепишь,там вроде все официально все как положено.Есть возможность показать вам доки?
мой майл aupair@ck.ukrpack.internet можете выслать туда документы... я вам потом в майле или на форуме дам по ним резюме. | | | | | Aladoria | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, fourteen:41 | Сообщение # 42 | | Рядовой Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | Цитата goaupair ( ) вы сейчас поступаете также как подавляющее большинство.... продолжаете верить что именно у вас реальная семья и реальные люди... Это других пытаются обмануть,но только не вас. Нет,что вы,ничего подобного. Обманывают сейчас кругом. Просто если вы посмотрите документы и скажете ,что это действительно мошенники- я просто заблокирую их и все,чтобы больше не писали ничего. Для меня 50 тысяч рублей большая сумма и я не готова ее просто так кому то пожертвовать 
Тогда вопрос Цитата goaupair ( ) не связываться с поиском семей в сша через интернет Зачем эти сайты,где выставлено куча о-перов и куча семей?Там получается везде обман? | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 14:49 | Сообщение # 43 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: two Статус: Оффлайн | Цитата Aladoria ( ) Зачем эти сайты,где выставлено куча о-перов и куча семей?Там получается везде обман?
Не совсем так...эти сайты реальные и стараются бороться с мошенниками по возможности ( видите как это у них плохо получается)... Устройство через них в какую то простую страну ( типа германии) вполне возможно и реально и там практически нет мошенников ( просто нет смысла им пастись по германии). Устройство именно в США просто безсмыслено, я написал выше почему. Это официальная гос программа в США, все правила устанавливаются госдепом, по ним работают реальные агентства. Такого типа сайты в этой работе просто не предусмотрены. Зачем рисковать, если за те же деньги, но официально можно спокойно и практически ничем не рискуя устроиться по правилам установленным правительством США. Бланки получил, пару минут отпишусь | | | | | goaupair | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 15:00 | Сообщение # 44 | | Подполковник Группа: Администраторы Репутация: ii Статус: Оффлайн | по бланкам... по моему мнению взяты возможно реальные бланки агентства и в фотошопе чуть доработаны. Эта фото с ребенком на бланке просто не нужна, а как под одним логотипом вставляют второй с "левыми"контактами... это вообще верх безвкусицы. не очень качественная подделка, тем более явно даже почерк фотошоповский похожий а то что я много раз видел. ( вставление в бланк не нужных картинок с сайта... ну и так далее) | | | | | Aladoria | Дата: Вторник, 07.01.2014, 15:14 | Сообщение # 45 | | Рядовой Группа: Пользователи Репутация: 0 Статус: Оффлайн | спасибо большое,все очень понятно объяснили. А не посоветуете агенства (проверенные естественно),через которые все официально можно устроить,российские,желательно по месту жительства .я проживаю в пензе. | | | | | | - Страница iii из 7
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